john mccain, who was active against susan rice is already calling him more secretary. i think he's going to be the easiest confirmation. it is just a massachusetts problem that remains. >> rick: no shortage of hot spots on the world stage. there's iran and north korea and syria and a little under a minute left. what do we know about how john kerry as a secretary of state might approach those? >> he'll be aggressive and he'll be traveling all over the world, i think she has the stature to develop strong relationships and if there is any difference between he and susan rice, susan was a tremendous advocate for human rights, and taking nothing away from john kerry, i think you will see maybe a little more pragmatic approach, and, maybe a little more white house centralization. because he will be out there all over the world. >> rick: susan estrich, good to talk to you, happy holidays. >> merry christmas. >> rick: merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> rick: she has syndicate columns, all over the country on wednesday and fridays. see you soon. >> jamie: a movie caught or